The Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Poor Erminio. There is never enough time in Adult Sunday School to get through all that needs to be taught. Erminio graciously postponed his presentation in order to allow Pastor Vince Giardino to sufficiently plow through his lesson on baptism and heresy. Even Pastor’s plans to show us a video took a hit. We only saw a few minutes of the video debate about baptism.Pastor wanted to make clear that the gospel of salvation is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Although baptism by water symbolizes the gospel, it is not part of the saving grace, like too many churches try to teach. We were baptized by the Holy Spirit into Christ. Jesus was baptized as an example so we could follow in believers’ baptism (Math 3:13-16). What sticks in Pastor’s craw is the NIV’s treatment of Christ’s divinity.

6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 1 John 5:6-7 (KJV)

Using 1 John 5:6-7 to state his case, Pastor G. pointed out that supporters of the NIV say they are using the correct manuscripts and that the KJ version of verse 7 is wrong. The NIV removes the “Word” from the trinity, as though Jesus is not God, and replaces it with “water”, as though water is saving. However, in several places, the rest of the scriptures clearly show that the “Word” is Jesus Christ and He has His proper place in the trinity. The NIV is proven wrong:

  • Jesus said to his disciples to, “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost”. Matt 28:19 (KJV) Who would dare argue with Jesus himself. Peter tried that and was duly rebuked (Matt 16:23).
  • Of course, the gold standard in proving Christ’s divinity: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” John 1:1 (KJV)
  • What could this passage be referring to if not Jesus Christ?: “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us” John 1:14 (KJV)
  • And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.” Rev 19:13 (KJV)

New versions of the bible are not faithful to the real Word of God and are inspired by the devil. Newer versions that remove Jesus as the “Word” are satanic, Pastor Giardino insisted. As prophesied in the book of Amos, there is a dearth in the land in hearing of the gospel. “Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord.” Amos 8:11 (KJV). Pastor G. taught that it is God that sends the famine because of the waywardness of His people. Thus, in many of today’s churches, you are not hearing the Word of God as intended, but diluted revisions to the delight of the devil.

Acts 20:28 admonishes those in the ministry to properly “feed the church of God”. I Cor 11:19 then speaks of recognizing heresies and exposing them. “Words in the bible are very important”, our pastor clearly showed. We need to be educated so that we are not duped by watered down versions of the bible and by ministers who teach heresy. The enemy is constantly attempting to erode and destroy the foundational truths of the Word of God using distortions and modern “interpretations”, for he knows that “If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?” Psalms 11:3 (KJV)

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  1. Gary Lockyer
    Gary Lockyer says:

    I came across this page in a google search on an unrelated topic. I am a conservative Baptist Pastor with a deep respect for the Word of God and for the “faith once delivered.” I also mainly use the NIV.
    This quote caught my attention: “The NIV removes the “Word” from the trinity, as though Jesus is not God, and replaces it with “water”, as though water is saving. However, in several places, the rest of the scriptures clearly show that the “Word” is Jesus Christ and He has His proper place in the trinity. The NIV is proven wrong.”
    With respect, I point out that all of the following quotes in the post, from the KJV, read exactly the same in the NIV – including the “gold standard one” oj John 1:1.
    With respect, the issue with 1 John 5:7-8 is not theological; that Jesus isn’t the Word, and that the “evil” NIV removes it. (If true, why in just this verse and not in the others referred to?) That Jesus is the “Word” is fully established in both KJV and NIV. The issue is the manuscript evidence for this verse as it appears in the KJV. If you are really interested in why these verses are different in the NIV refer to :
    http://www.bible.org/article/textual-problem-1-john-57-8 for a good summary.

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